[researcher][00:00] Hi. So this interview follows your two week participation in our study on Instagram, news and mobile Thank you apps. Thank you for completing the log book entries, today we'll talk through some questions, reflections and feelings about your experience. Just a quick reminder that this interview is being recorded as outlined in the consent form. If you have any concerns about that, please let us know. And of course, you're free to skip any question at any time if it makes you uncomfortable.

[researcher][00:35] Okay, to begin, could you tell me about your main hobbies or activities you enjoy in your free time?

[participant][00:42] Yeah, of course. I think one activity that I really enjoy is playing tennis. I sort of, I try and do that as much as I can. It's lots of fun. And a lot of my other kind of hobbies and things I enjoy revolve around technology, so sort of graphic design and doing web design and sort of video editing and stuff that that kind of is very technology focused as well. 

[researcher][01:03] Okay, In what ways do you think your mobile app use or Instagram support or like interfere with any of these hobbies?

[participant][01:16] I think it goes sort of both ways. Because sometimes, you know, I can find it. It can actually really help, especially when it comes to more creative stuff. Having Instagram as a place to kind of get inspiration and and learn from people and stuff like that, it's super helpful. But there are definitely times where I will get stuck on Instagram and just not really be able to get off it. And I should be doing other stuff and more productive things, but I'm just a little bit, little bit stuck, so I feel like it can get in the way sometimes as well.

[researcher][01:47] Okay, and before starting the two week luck book, how would you describe your typical interaction with Instagram and your mobile banking?

[participant][01:57] With my mobile banking app? Yeah, sort of I probably use it. I'd like to think, like most people use it. You know, I go on to if I need to check my balance to be able to pay people or pay bills. Also, I do my investments through my banking app as well. So I kind of do my savings pots. So there's quite a few different things. So I, I kind of do spend a fair amount of time on it, sometimes, with with Instagram, I think it's, it's similar to many others, but not particularly healthy in terms of the amount I use it and getting getting stuck with it. 

[researcher][02:31] Okay, so you just say that, like, sometimes you could get stuck on Instagram, like, have you ever tried to set any screen time limits or similar controls to manage, like, your Instagram use?

[participant][02:45] I actually have, yeah, like, quite a while ago I set the whole screen time limits and getting locked down after a certain amount of time. But to be honest, I kind of just turned it off because it was pretty annoying. And, yeah, I didn't have much motivation to do it

[researcher][03:00] Okay, and as you completed the log book entries over the two weeks, did you begin to notice any emerging patterns in when or how you use each app? 

[participant][03:12] Yeah, I mean, it seemed that Instagram was something that I would go to in in moments where I wasn't, like, already focused on something, if I was doing something and enjoying it. Then, then Instagram would be out my mind. Whereas if I was, if I was bored, then that's, that's sort of a I would notice I would be doing nothing, and then the next thing I know, Instagram would be open on my phone. Whereas with banking, it felt like it was much more,  I was if I was feeling productive, I was like, you know, yeah, I'm gonna tackle, I'm gonna tackle my banking now, and I'm going to, you know, do some, do some moving of my money, and look into my investments and stuff. And so it was, like, it was kind of interesting to see the different, yeah, the different patterns.

[researcher][03:53] Okay, and would you say, like, this amount is more or less about the same time as your usual usage?

[participant][04:02] Um, I think in the last two weeks I would say my my Instagram usage has been has been about average. Like, I don't know quite how much I try and would say per day, but, like, it's probably been about average. And my mobile banking app may be a little less than usual.

[researcher][04:21] Okay, and across a two week period, then what typically probably you to open Instagram, and what from the you to open your banking app?

[participant][04:30]  Yeah, I mean, so, so, as I said with with Instagram, it was very much a question of when I was when I was not doing anything, if I wasn't in a state of, like, being productive, that's when I would open Instagram. And, you know, like, if I was in the metro, or just I was, I was doing an activity where there was nothing else I really felt I could do, and I was kind of stuck on it, like you have to wait for the metro to end or to get to your stop and and with my banking app,. Yeah, it would, it would sort of be a mix of things. It would be either like I was, I was out somewhere, and I wanted to buy something, but I wasn't 100% sure that I had the money, or it would almost be like a confirmation thing, where I just I wanted to look at it, just to be sure, even if I knew I actually did have the money, it would just be more comfortable to actually look.

[researcher][05:18] Okay, and did you ever find yourself switching directly from one of this app to the other?

[participant][05:25] Yeah, so in terms of going from Instagram to my mobile banking app, it was, it was most likely I'd see some piece of tech or, like, some new clothes or something that was an advert on Instagram. And usually I'd have that moment being like, maybe, maybe I can afford this, and then go to my banking app. And sometimes being like, okay, yeah, I can. Or being like, Oh no, don't do that. And yeah, I don't. I don't really ever think I went straight from my banking app to Instagram, other than maybe, like, if I was kind of stressed or overwhelmed from my banking app.

[researcher][06:04] Yeah, okay. And Were there particular times of days when you noticed you were more or less likely to use either app? And why do you think those patterns occurred? 

[participant][06:17] I think yeah, definitely. I think it was very much. Instagram was something that I used during the early morning, like when I'd wake up, it would sort of be while my brain was still kind of coming together, and I didn't want to, I was in no place trying to do anything productive. I'd find that I would open Instagram, and likewise, very late at night. That's when I think I would use Instagram a lot more, and that's when it kind of became problematic, because I would get stuck on it, and then end up staying up later than I wanted to as well. And my banking app was kind of as and when, but definitely during the day, never the early morning or the late night.

[researcher][06:55] Okay, and did you maybe notice any emotional changes, like before using the app, during or after using it?

[participant][07:05] Yeah, so, I mean, with Instagram, it was, you know, it was always when I was bored, like I would usually, I would either be bored or just feeling unproductive already, when, when wanting to, then use it, and then while using it, it would usually kind of put me in this state where I would I would feel, I'd feel good, because I'd be like, you know, my brain is being entertained, and I'm just not really thinking about anything else. And I do feel entertained. But then after using it, depending on the context, like if I was in the metro, then I don't feel bad about using it. But if it, if it's like, Okay, I'm going to come off now and I'm going to sleep. I then look at the time, I'm like, Oh God, I feel bad about this, or the fact I get stuck in bed longer in the morning because I get stuck on it, and I feel bad about that. And with with my banking app, usually it's sort of be anxiety that would leave me there. So it'd be like the unknowing of and almost being scared to actually look if I was worried that, like a big bill had gone out that I wasn't expecting, or I'd spent too much on a night out and and then during it would go either way, depending on how I actually felt about what I was looking at. Either I felt better or I still felt bad. But afterwards, I think I always felt better because I was like, at least I've tackled the problem.

[researcher][08:21] Okay, well, you actually spent seventy minutes on Instagram and seven minutes on your banking app, knowing your actual usage. Do you think that participating in this study has influenced how you might use this apps in the future, and how do you feel about like this number?

[participant][08:44] Yeah, I mean, I think Instagram is, it's not surprising to me. I know I use it too much, and it probably gets in the way of, you know, my day, and being able to do either more productive things or just even stuff like reading a book that's, you know, a bit better at night. And so it may be time to look at those screen time controls again and not just turn them off straight away.

[researcher][09:06] Okay, so were there any unexpected trends or insights you noticed about your app usage while completing the log book?

[participant][09:17] I think, to be honest, it was sort of as I mentioned earlier, that, you know, my app usage actually had quite a big difference depending on where I was, like I was, I was much more likely to use my mobile banking app when I was at home, like I didn't want to do that when I was out in public, because sort of just felt like a bit of a privacy thing And and that with Instagram, it was, it was interesting to me to see, like, how much I used in the morning, and also knowing how much I've actually now used it like it's a lot more than I thought it would be. And so it just shows that I can kind of lose track of time a little bit. And, yeah, I mean, I. Guess you could sort of expect it, but to be honest, I It's a bit unexpected, because I didn't realize how, how clear it would actually be 

[researcher][10:06] Okay, and as a final question, is there anything else you observed during the study that has not been covered in these questions but still feel, still feels relevant to the research topic?

[participant][10:21] Um, I mean, I'm not sure if it's fully relevant to the research topic, but I think one thing that was interesting to me is, while I was, you know, doing this study and focusing very much for my usage of, particularly my banking app and Instagram, the other apps on my phone, It made me more conscious of how much I was using those and other apps that, you know, could be, like my games and stuff like that, or YouTube that I also was using a lot, and I wasn't recording it, obviously, but it made me conscious of that. And I just think it's, it just shows there's a lot of other stuff that can also, you know, either be productive or not, and you can spend too much time on and that was, that was interesting to me. 

[researcher][11:05] Okay, well, thank you so much for completing the love potential for two weeks and for your time.

[participant][11:12] Thank you for thank you for inviting me on the study.