[researcher][00:00] This interview follows your two week participation in our study on Instagram use and mobile banking apps. Thank you for completing the log book entries. Today, we'll talk through some questions, reflections and feelings about your experience. Just a quick reminder that this interview is being recorded as outlined in the consent form. If you have any concerns about that, please let us know. And of course, you're free to skip any question at any time if it makes you uncomfortable. 

[researcher][00:31] To begin, could you tell me your main hobbies or activities you enjoy in your free time?

[participant][00:40] So I'm actually a professional waterfall player right now. I pay for Mechelen, it a city it he just out Brussels and I have like three to four trainings per week with them. I also most of the times on Saturday nights I have a game that we play, like professional game, and most of the times in the mornings, I also go to the gym by myself, so I think sports is my main hobby. 

[researcher][01:05] Okay, and in what ways, if any, does your mobile app use support or interfere with these hobbies?

[participant][01:13] I don't think it's interfere with anything. And like the only support that I can imagine is the transportation part. So like, when I'm taking the public transportation to the gym, I sometimes, like, check my Instagram, like, because I was bored on road, or when my teammates get me with the car to go to the training, but it's like thirty minutes by car, and sometimes they speak in French, and I understand nothing. So I get really bored in the car and I look at Instagram. So I think transportation parties helped me with it.

[researcher][01:52] Okay, and before starting the two week log book, how would you describe your typical interaction with Instagram in your mobile banking app?

[participant][02:01] I think my banking app is most of the times on mid days that I pay in the restaurants for my friends and they pay me back, or vice versa, or paying my bills like rent that, because other ones are automatic, but the rent I pay, it like my not automatically by myself, and so with banking habits like that, I mean Instagram, it's either transportation or at night when I'm bored at like the house, by myself, I just log in Instagram. 

[researcher][02:33] Okay, and have you ever set screen time limits or similar controls on your phone to manage your use of either either of these apps. And if yes, what motivated you to do so?

[participant][02:47] No, I have never used any screen limits.

[researcher][02:50] Okay, and as you completed the log book entries over the two weeks, did you begin to notice any emerging patterns in when or how you use each app?

[participant][03:03] Like I said, I think the transportation part is a pattern, and the other pattern like that I will see, thought is like the restaurants and with Instagram, it's also the night that I'm bored so I think those are the patterns that I can notice.

[researcher][03:21] Okay, and across the two week period, what typically prompted you to open Instagram, and what prompted you to open your banking app?

[participant][03:30] Banking app, except the restaurant, is most of them my curiosity, because I'm a curious guy, so I always open to the balance and Like, check what's there? What's not there, and Instagram is always boredom like I'm bored or something or doing nothing, so I just open Instagram. That's the only reason I open Instagram.

[researcher][03:52] Okay, and did you ever and did you ever find yourself switching directly from one of these apps to the other? And if so, what do you think triggered that transition?

[participant][04:04] I only saw that once, and I'm not even sure about it, because I saw an ad in Instagram. It was a concert in Brussels. It was a Turkish group. Then I looked at the prices to Instagram, and it was really high, like it was doubled the prices that I would pay in Turkey. So maybe after that, I I might have opened my banking app, if I recall correctly, but if not, I don't think there's any other direct changes.

[researcher][04:35] Okay, and were there particular times of the day when you noticed you were more or less likely to use either app. Why do you think those patterns occurred?

[participant][04:47] With Instagram, I think I never use it outside, when I meet my friends or when I'm in school. I think I'm really less likely to open Instagram and there's people around me and the other way around when I'm the car transportation or my house alone, I'm likely to open it. And with my banking app, I think it's just random curiosity, opening, opening.

[researcher][05:13] Okay, and did you notice any emotional changes before, during or after using either app. And if yes, can you describe any examples where this was especially noticeable?

[participant][05:27] So yes, for example, in the last two days, every time I opened my banking app, I felt really bad because I spent, I think I spent a lot of money in the past days, so the last two days, it was stressing every time I saw my balance and except that with Instagram, it's it's either I was bored then I felt better while using it, because I got entertained, or I was bored beforehand, and I was still bored while using in that I felt guilty about opening the Instagram because it's just Like a useless apps that I should consider just leaving it okay.

[researcher][06:06] And so the actual, your actual daily usage recorded on Instagram was thirty-five minutes and twenty-five minutes for the banking app. How do you feel about that?

[participant][06:18] I think it says like it was higher than what I expected. So I think I should delete Instagram because it's just useless and I don't do anything, I don't post anything, I don't even like, like doing anything with Instagram. I think I should either lower it because it's useless, or delete it. And with banking app, same I think I'm addicted to looking to my balance like checking it. Maybe I should reduce that addiction. I think it's not healthy.

[researcher][06:50] Yeah, and were there any unexpected trends or insights you notice about your app usage while completing the logbook?

[participant][07:00] I think, like the curiosity part, like the addiction of just looking to my balance was the unexpected trend that I figured out.

[researcher][07:12] And is there anything else you've observed during the study that has not been covered in these questions but feel relevant to the research question?

[participant][07:22] No, I think it was all thank you for the interview. 

[researcher][07:26] Okay, thank you, man.