[researcher][00:00] Hi. This interview follows your two week participation in our study on Instagram, use and mobile banking apps. Thank you for completing the logbook entries. Today, we'll talk through some questions, reflections and feelings about your experience. Just a quick reminder that this interview is being recorded as outlined in the concent form, and if you have any concerns about that, please let us know. And of course, you're free to skip any question at any time if it makes you uncomfortable. 

[researcher][00:31] Okay, so to begin, could you maybe tell me about your main hobbies or activities that you enjoy doing in your free time?

[participant][00:40] So I'm actually a professional water polo player except school. So in when I came to Belgium, I like signed with a team in Mechelen, which is the another, like city just across Brussels. So I have three to four trainings per day with them, and I also most of times, I have a professional game every Saturday night, and I also do fitness by myself, most of them in the mornings. So I would say sport is like my main hobby. 

[researcher][01:12] Okay, and in what ways maybe do you think that Instagram or like your banking app support or interfere with these hobbies?

[participant][01:26] I don't think it interferes with anything, because, like, I don't use them while doing it. It helps me with, like, the transportation, because for the gym, I take I use public transportation, I use Metro. And when I'm using it, I must. I'm, like, I might just hop into Instagram and, like, check it out, or for my trainings. Sometimes my teammates take me with the car and, like, we drive for thirty minutes. And sometimes, like, it's more than one of them, so they just speak French between themselves, and I don't understand anything, so I get bored, and I open Instagram while on like, while on the road. So that's, that's the thing I think.

[researcher][02:10] Okay, and before starting the two week log book, like, how would you describe maybe your typical interaction with Instagram and also your mobile banking app?

[participant][02:20] I think with my mobile banking app, it's most time, like routine things like paying my bill, or like receiving money, or like eating when we go to some restaurant, my friends I pay like everything, and they pay me back, or or vice versa. So I think with banking app, that was my typical interaction, and with Instagram, it's most of times, either I'm like, in public transportation, in car, or at night I'm at my house, bored, I couldn't find anything to do and just open Instagram.

[researcher][02:56] Okay, so you also recently said that, like you don't really, maybe you don't really use Instagram that much I wanted to know if, like, you ever set screen time limit or similar controls to manage your use, maybe during, I don't know, exam season or something like that.

[participant][03:12] No, I have never used the screen time limit in my life.

[researcher][03:16] Okay, and as you completed the log book entries, did you begin to notice any emerging patterns in, like, how you use each app? 

[participant][03:26] Yes, so I think with the banking app, it's like two things. One of the things was that I like, understand was I use it all the time, and I'm outside, eating with my friends because I pay something or like, get received, like, money. And the second thing I think I addict to, addicted to look at my balance all the time. Like, just a quick peak in my balance, and then Instagram, it's most of the time, either like transportation or like bored at the house, and like, scrolling down a bit. 

[researcher][04:01] Okay, and do you think that this amount of time that you can spend of each app is more or less or about the same as your actual usage from the study?

[participant][04:16] So like before I learned my results, yeah, I estimated them to be lower than those. Like, not a big difference, but a bit lower than them. And I was a bit surprised for Instagram to like be twenty-five minutes, which I expected to be twenty-five minutes. So I was a bit surprised.

[researcher][04:37] Yes, okay, and did you ever find yourself switching directly from one of this app to the others?

[participant][04:48] So I only find myself one time, and it was a concert ad in Brussels, like near my house. It was a Turkish group. That I like, they were planning to come to Brussels, but then I look at the prices, and it was too high. Normally, in Turkey, it will be like, maybe half of the price it will be, but here it was like too expensive. So that was the only time like, I think I switched from Instagram to my banking app. Maybe I switched, and if not, I don't think I had a directly switiching thing.

[researcher][05:28] Okay, and since you told me that you were a professional water polo player, I wanted to know and that you had like, multiple like training per week. Were there particular times of day when you noticed you are more or less likely to use either app? 

[participant][05:44] Yeah, so with my banking, app it's either like at lunch or randomly sneak peaks. And with Instagram, it's either transportation, going to the trainings at the car, or, like my at in, at my house. But of course, like when I'm training, I can't, like, take my phone because I'm in the water, or when I'm outside in a in the like when I'm having a lunch with my friends, I never used Instagram. I also noticed that.

[researcher][06:22] Okay, did you notice any emotional changes before, during or after using either app?

[participant][06:30] So with my banking app in the last two days, I noticed that every time I looked at my balance, I felt really bad because I spent a lot of money in the past days, except that I didn't like have any interaction, like emotional feelings with my banking app, except last two days and with Instagram, it's most of the time I was really bored before opening Instagram. Then I either felt entertained and felt better afterwards, or I was still bored, couldn't find anything, and I felt even worse afterwards, like, because I felt like I was wasting my time with Instagram. So I was feeling a bit guilty.

[researcher][07:14] Okay, I understand. Were there, maybe, like, any unexpected trends, or insights you noticed about you app usage while completing the logbook?

[participant][07:28] No, I don't think so. I don't remember anything.

[researcher][07:31] Okay, and is there anything else you observed during the study that has not been covered in these questions but still feel relevant to the research topic.

[participant][07:42] Maybe the only thing I wanted to add is, like, after I learned, like, having thirty-five minutes per day for Instagram and, like, over twenty minutes for banking app, I think I will get those numbers lower in the future. So I think that's the only thing that I want to say.

[researcher][08:02] Okay, thank you so much.

[participant][08:05] Yes, thank you.